Unskilled labor is a myth that employers use as an excuse to pay workers less.
Any labor takes some amount of skill to do. Just because quote-unquote "anyone can do it" doesn't make it unskilled. And what's more, many "unskilled jobs" are imperative to our society and its functioning. They are as important as, if not more than, the work of managers, executives, and "higher-ups."
Fuck anyone who puts you down by telling you that your work is unskilled or deserves to be exploited more. Your work is valuable. And so are you.
@delve thank you very much
@sidd_harth0_5h4h Thank you for being a pillar of society. And for being a beautiful person.
@delve really??? 😳
@sidd_harth0_5h4h Of course.
@delve IWW member?????????????? 😈
...not yet, at least ;)
@sidd_harth0_5h4h But I support them. Hence why I advertise them in my bio.
@delve honestly like... to add to that you're often busting your ass way more in an "unskilled labor" job than a "skilled labor" one. the whole thing is so completely backwards
@hoppet Very true. As examples, garbage collection, yard work, and busing are all difficult work. Sometimes backbreaking. We should be celebrating the people who do it! Not shaming!
@delve It is also a huge red flag showing that the respective companies dodge the responsibility of educating their own personell.
@delve the whole "skilled v. unskilled" thing is asinine
You're gonna seriously tell me flipping burgers isn't skilled work? I might have a BS but I'm uncoordinated as fuck and can't flip burger patties for shit
ANYTHING is a skill, most "unskilled" work requires skill to know how to do it too
@delve It’s a framing device, that really pushes people to persecute the lower class, so yeah it’s bad. Even if everyone called them “renaissance workers” or something though, in any free market, the more workers there are, the lower the price to buy a worker is going to be. Employers don’t need propaganda to pay a worker less, when there are 100 starving migrants just salivating for their job. So unskilled labor getting crap wages is a problem with the free market itself, which no amount of pep talks about how valuable food packers are will fix.
@cy I agree, and I wasn't attempting to say we can fix it like that. That would be silly. I was simply addressing the idea of unskilled labor, acknowledging it as a myth, and stating it as something that employers do use as an excuse to pay workers less. Yes, the market makes certain jobs worse paying — that's very true — but that doesn't mean employers don't still use this to excuse that fact, even if it's not the basic cause of low wages.
@delve Right, so there’s still a problem even without the spin doctors, but it’s an even worse problem when you add in the negative propaganda demoralizing and taking support away from the working class. Anyone who says that people are poor because they’re lazy is no friend of mine.
it's also fucked because of how often "unskilled labor" is repetitive, physically-demanding labor that will eventually cause (often permanent) physical injury. and only rarely do these jobs come with effective/usable-in-the-workplace training on how to prevent repetitive stress injury incident to the work
@delve if there were such a thing as "unskilled labour" then every job labelled as such wouldn't require you to go through training.
@delve fun bonus.
Most then continue about people doing those "unskilled jobs" badly, contradicting themselves, because somehow you have unskilled job, that require a high amount of skill.
Also everyone can sit in a chair and tell other people what they have to do, so somehow manager jobs are "unskilled jobs" too?
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@delve something something deeper problem something something “everyone has to work” mentality” something UBI
re: "unskilled labour"
If you told me to go into a grocery store and stock shelves or load pallets, I would have no idea what I was doing. I'd definitely do it in a slow and confused manner, I'd make mistakes, and I'd probably injure myself or others because I don't know how to do those things safely.
There are people skilled at this work, and what they do is vital.
re: "unskilled labour"
@monsterblue @delve Even if the job was easy to figure out, that’s a good thing! A better way to say “skilled labor” might be “difficult labor” or “complicated labor.” We want our labor to be as unskilled as possible, so that we don’t have to break our backs being one of the only 10 people in the world who understand some vital spaghetti code COBOL. We don’t want our labor to have “high value” or be coveted, because we don’t want to labor at all! Sometimes skilled labor might be necessary but the only cost to any job is how much hard work it is, and the only gain is how much people benefit from your work who are likely to reciprocate.
It’s a big problem in places like science, medicine and law, where a lot of it is just overcomplicated barriers to entry, generated by former members trying to lock out any competition. You can construct an elevator that takes a college degree to operate, but it’s better to just have one button for each floor.
@delve try living without the "unskilled" work of garbage collectors...
@delve all jobs require skills. Some skills are valued less than others.
And a hell of a lot of labor is expected to be performed without pay. Reproductive, household, emotional support, elder care, but also things like moderating Facebook groups, thats work that generates capital for a business, but we’re not even allowed to think of it that way because people do it for free.
@delve There's no unskilled labor, only devalued skills
@delve I remember getting a job as a labourer for a construction company. They handed the engineers phone, laptop, keys to a new hilux. They handed me a shovel. I thought that was funny. It turned out on the job labourers were responsible to setting out trenches, making sure they are in the right spot and right dimensions, guiding excavator operators, making sure they don't hit services, getting clearances right before roads went in. Lot of responsibility for the lowest paid on site.
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